The Continual Marginalization of… Ourselves

Note:

I’m already angry and even angrier that I’m going to have to give a disclaimer:

 If you don’t like me quoting Jezebel or any other mainstream feminist site that reflects the majority of feminists, Screw You.

If you easily have your feelings hurt, like to mammy for a good “cause” , enjoy being “politically correct”, or have some brain defect in which you don’t know the difference between  “preferences” and “racism/colorism”, then please remove yourself from my site.

For those of you who continue you use your fully functioning brains please continue. ( Again like my previous posts this will be long and in sections.)

I. I’m starting to believe that most people are stupid.  No, that’s a lie. I already thought most people were stupid but I’m starting to see the proof every day of the year that I was correct in my assumption. What am I talking about? I’m talking about the continual, willing and blatant support of people, groups, institutions,  and organizations that continually and with malicious forethought,( or no forethought at all) go out of their way  to hurt, harm, maim, abuse (verbally or otherwise), erase, or exploit black women and then instead of black women eradicating or pulling support they go along with such abuse. Or in some way think that they are “intelligent”  “informed” or helping the “cause”.

Quite simply put these women, black women, who think this behavior is alright are FOOLS.

No that wasn’t a typo. I really mean it. As every day goes on black women are continually in denial about the abuse  that they are facing and like the Charlie Brown picture above, the continually try to kick that football.

Not only do they fall on their ass but defending the fact that Lucy (aka any movement that has shown that they think black women should fuck off with words or actions) is actually their friend and that they’re in it for them. They also have some misguided notion that the reason why they’re overlooked, overworked or underpaid by these movements / people that they’ve aligned with are just misunderstood  and a good ole conversation will straighten everything out, instead of realizing that this isn’t Leave it to Beaver and sometimes a conversation just won’t be enough when people just don’t give a damn. This makes me enraged and deranged when I’m subjected to this obvious gaslighting.

Example number one: I was on a Colorlines article linked from “feministing” (*gasp* to the readers who think I only haunt Jezebel.  I do manage to find my way onto other sites and *gasp* they’re always spouting the same crap)  and came across an article on the “Stop and Frisk”

http://colorlines.com/archives/2013/03/heres_why_new_york_citys_stop-and-frisk_trial_is_really_important.html

and other article

http://feministing.com/2012/06/13/we-must-end-stop-and-frisk/

in New York City and people of color. Of course you would think that they would talk about or at least link an article about, oh I don’t know, women of color  and the stop and frisk but yet again they managed to turn it into how black men are being disproportionately targeted.  Whoops my bad, I should say that they got an “honorable mention” in the articles of how hard it is for black men to be black men  but for the most part black women where nowhere to be seen the article had video about black men who’d been stop and frisked,  and the only woman they interviewed only talked about how their male friend got frisked.

Forget the fact that there have been articles talking about how black women have been stopped and frisked the article address black men and the only visibility black women got were in relation or juxtaposition to black men and how it felt to have to watch black men be pawed and stereotyped.

(And please don’t come at me with the bullshit that Feministing or any other feminist site helps black women because they’re mentioned other times [I have seen the articles]because the silence from them when black men target black women is deafening and speaks a thousand words.)

Because black women don’t get pawed, stereotyped or falsely accused amiright?

Of course though if you’re wondering why they didn’t mention black women on this issue on a feminist site  ( and I will YET AGAIN point out that Jezebel and the Feminist wire are virtually no different when it comes down to black women and they’re lack of care)  I will point out again that to feminists even black feminists all the blacks are MEN that means that if you had some misguided hope of thinking that the shallow feminist movement, who spends the majority of their time cattily fighting about sex positivism vs. non sex positivism and whether or not the Beyonce is really a feminist when she called her tour “Mrs.  Carter”, then you were delusionally mistaken!

For even black women “feminists” who should realize a thing about intersectionality don’t even give a damn. They are willing to throw themselves on the line to represent those poor black men while falling on a blade. That song Grenade by Bruno Mars is coming to mind right now because literally black literally put their head on a blade for anyone  with a cause and a dream.

I won’t even talk about Color lines at the pure Irony that they didn’t include black women in this article either because the irony also speaks a thousand words. And it’s also completely expected.

Instead let’s move on.

Let’s talk about the white women feminist on the feminist wire that talked about violence in South Africa one of the RAPE CAPITALS OF the world and see what she had to say.

http://thefeministwire.com/2013/03/race-class-masculinities-and-violence-against-women-in-south-africa/

Was it anything good, or helpful that would help black women in any way shape or form get help?

Sorry Jimmy, that would mean the sun  was revolving around the moon and that gravity didn’t exist and what goes up never comes down. Instead the “informative” article was used to touch on the violence without actually calling anyone  out.

Let’s take a look: ( Note I bold and underline stuff that stood out)

Another reason to question the link between (black) poverty and (emasculatory) violence against women is the fact that in surrounding countries, with comparable levels of unemployment, reported violence against women is lower. In addition, anecdotal evidence from (rape) hotline counselors suggests that white middle class women are by no means accepted; “Yes, white man rape and beat too.

Therefore, rather than thinking about ‘black or African masculinities’, we might want to move our focus away from race and zoom in on the nation and its uniquely violent (and patriarchal) history instead.

Today, white violence doesn’t seem to make it into the media all that often. The reason why Oscar’s case made worldwide headlines was obviously due to his fame, which he acquired through his success as a disabled yet successful sports man. Reeva’s death at the hands of this famous, upper-middle class white star, attests to the fact that violence against women is not confined to the black underclass. Especially now that the veil is slowly lifted from Oscar’s aggressive streaks and gun obsession, it should be clear that masculine violence cuts across all racial, classed or cultural groups within the borders of the state.  The possible role that his disability played in his macho bravado and how this might have driven him to overcompensate with hyper-masculine behaviour, is unclear. Yet by emphasizing the exceptionality of his position, we risk obscuring the fundamental ideas about manhood which he shared with most of his countrymen.

Nice job, feminism nice job. Yet again this is the classic way to “address” without addressing or torn a conversation that should go one way into turning it into something else. Instead of calling it like it T. I.  Is, this well-meaning white lady has used this as a way to give raping black men a pass. And don’t tell me that “she didn’t mean it”  “She didn’t intend it” BULLSHIT. I am damn tired of excusing people who think that they can avoid calling out dbr black men who have victimized black women (around the globe) and then settle on placations like “white men rape too”.

Further this woman went even further by saying that violence isn’t confined to the black underclass. What exactly does that mean? Obviously when three fourths of South Africa has been raped, you can bet your ASS that it isn’t confined to the poor blacks.(  And yet this woman uses poor economic positions to explain why black men rape)

But further she decides to say this.

In addition, anecdotal evidence from (rape) hotline counselors suggests that white middle class women are by no means excepted; Yes, white man rape and beat too.

And:

The combination of colonial violence, apartheid violence, resistance violence, institutionalized racism and militant white domination deeply influenced the masculine ideals of South African men and are undeniably responsible for the violence of today. But the extent to which class comfort protects white women from male violence, and how wealth and power contribute to violently patriarchal senses of entitlement and dangerous possessiveness are subject of ambiguity. And we will not find out if both media and researchers keep treating violence against women as a black affair.

What I’ve gleaned from this little snippet  is this. “Racism causes black men to rape, they feel emasculated. It is still bad but let’s not think that only black women get raped by black men because that’s racist and lets also make sure that white women aren’t overlooked in the rape debate even though in SOUTH AFRICA they are the majority of the victims because ya’know that’s not fair to white women.

Derp…

Qu’est-ce que cést?

Thanks for looking out feminism. Always looking out.  And yet of course the black women are always littering these sites salivating and orgasming because they got a mention that really didn’t mention them at all. Instead they support filth like this article that basically didn’t say anything at all but talk in circles.

Because articles like this are circular. Let me explain… They shuffle around a few ideas, re-mention things that have been said, certain memes and thoughts, but really the “dialog” is still as stifled as before but nobody really notices.  Everyone is too busy being politically correct to say this:

Ahem, Black men who are the MAJORITY in South Africa. STOP RAPING WOMEN it’s violent and illegal. That is all.

 Listen, I don’t really give a damn if black men leave the rape conversation feeling good about themselves or feeling like they’re not being attacked or “singled out”. Because they don’t mind don’t bat an eyelash when physically attacking black women. And the good ones have certainly washed their hands of the whole mess.  When the majority of black women in South Africa say they’ve been raped, when Anene Booysen scenarios happen, I’m taking off the kid gloves ( if I ever had them on) and I’m going to say the truth.

We don’t NEED TO be informed at this moment that white men rape. Or that because black men were trampled by white men we should be understanding when they trample us. To waste my time with this is not only obfuscating but tainting the issue. I also clearly see this attention grabber for what it is so white women feminists can now feel that they aren’t being overlooked.

Oh the irony…..

II.

And yet step away from the feminist community and black women are still kickin’ that ole football. Charlie  Brown is alive and well, and as stupid as ever.

Because when black women are not mammying for feminism they’re mammying for dead beats. And I don’t even mean by throwing themselves down for the cause. No they give their time and resources to people who abuse them. Clutch is wasting their time talking about dead beats and ass holes. Because if black women aren’t selling their souls to feminism then dead beat black men who have claimed to hate them take all their time and attention.

In the clutch article they mentioned that “Rick Ross”?  has talked about date raping women in a song. And I wonder… why do websites geared towards “black women” waste their time telling black women about misogynistic, hateful black men? Why bother. Why are black women continually reporting commenting and getting angry/ boycotting people who have proven to hate black women?  I have a question why are people even still listening to Rick Ross?  Black women especially. Why are black women listening to any rapper? Most mainstream rappers hate black women and all that we stand for. Are black women so DUMB that that they will support anything or is this a severe case of Stockholm syndrome. If this is the latter, as a psychology student, I have to point you in the direction of the nearest therapist’s office for help because you are severely damaged.

I’m not kidding.

But even further these women not only give their time but they also spend the time talking to these men as if they care what you think. Take the recent video by a black man on YouTube that claims that light and white women are better than black women. The women on there were begging and pleading for him to change his mind.

Are these women a fool? That isn’t going to happen.

Or further they’ve gone completely and utterly in denial because deep down they are severely delusional. In one article a black women mentioned all the hate videos by black men on YouTube talking about black women and do you want to know what one black women concluded?  Something to the effect of “are you sure they’re black men. Some of them could be disguised as white men.”

SMH I won’t even deny that the racists flock to YOUTUBE, but I  will get a good gut laugh at the fact that this delusional black woman thinks that the videos of black men SHOWING THEIR FACE and bashing black women like the guy in the video I described above  are really white men.

Because when black men make videos maligning black women and black women have to confront the fact that there are plenty of bm who agree with these videos, when all else fails lie to yourself.

Stop it. You’re making an ass of yourself. These black men have never had to disguise their hate. The DL Hughley’s can say what they want because broken women like this won’t do a damn thing or they know that they’ll get that ole “racism” pass.

Moving on…

I didn’t want to but let’s also talk about his clear colorism in that video. See this fool is clearly insulting all black women, he doesn’t just believe he is attracted to white women/ light women. No he’s actually concluding based on the “media “and his own “evidence “that dark black women are overall UGLY and that NOBODY anywhere likes them.

And yet people ( black women) still are defending this man ( aside from the ones in denial or begging him to change his mind)  saying that this is a “preference”. Black women are defending this man.

Hell I’m sure that everyone has a preference.  I think Latino men are particularly attractive. Hell, I also love blonde men.  And yet never in  my life have  a made a video about how men who don’t fit into that standard are, ugly, losers, disgusting to look at, and  are not worthy of love or attention to the rest of the world.

Liking a type is one thing. Abusing, degrading, maligning, and discriminating, or putting their worth and value in their looks is another. That is racism/colorism. There is no other word for that. This man didn’t just say I  find these women attractive. He said that dark black women are ugly/ hideous/ unlikable to anyone else.  To the black women that are trying to guilt you into not speaking out against this obvious difference is a liar and a gas lighter.  Only a fool/ naïve loon can’t see the difference.

Meep Meep.

III.

Meanwhile these delusions have led to a mass of these same black women haters to be able to effectively mainstream. If you haven’t read Beware of the two face Harvey article that I wrote read that now.

https://notyourgirlfriday.wordpress.com/2013/02/27/beware-of-the-harvey-two-face/

These abusers, who someone tried to say was actually losing in the long run to the white man that they work for (lol), are every day making it into mainstream because black women continue to let themselves be abused.

DL Hugley  who claimed that nobody really likes black women at all because they’re unlikable, has effectively made it onto Dancing With the Stars.

Mike Tyson is getting a show,

Kevin “dark skinned black women are broke”  Hart was at the Kids Choice Awards. Yes we’ve allowed him around children.

Only in the USA, can you actively say hate speech to black women ad get away with it.  But are these feminist/civil rights identified black women protesting/  boycotting  Dancing With The Stars doing million hoodie marches for that? Oh no , Jimmy.

These women are in the ranks laughing along, voting along, watching along with people who hate them.

Only in America do black women go along with violence against themselves.

IV.

But onelesssoldier why does this matter? You ask. Well it matters because when fools like this let crap pass it always turns into something else. It’s, how you say? A Gateway.

When they let hate speech go they let violence go. What am I talking about? Let’s talk about the black women and her take on Steubenville rapists.

Let’s take a gander at what this twit had to say
http://blackgirldangerous.org/new-blog/2013/3/17/1g5wckiks8gpa0iahe4zc46go4awsu

I, unlike many people reacting to today’s verdict, am not just thrilled to death that two 16-year-old boys are going to jail. What they did was terrible. There is no excuse. They have to be two seriously fucked-up kids to have done what they did. But what I know for damn sure is that jail does not fix broken people. It only breaks them harder.

The fact is that once these boys enter the prison system, even ​in juvenile detention, chances are that they will return to it. It will, with little doubt, fuck them up more than they are already fucked-up. They will not likely emerge from prison as two well-adjusted men who respect women and understand that sexual assault against them is not okay. That’s not what prison does for people.

As a Black woman, I especially am not thrilled to death to see another Black boy put in a cage. Black boys are disproportionately put in cages and I am not in any way happy that it’s happening again. What this boy did is terrible and I do not in any way excuse it. It is inexcusable. Thinking about it makes me feel crazy and hopeless. But adding another Black body to the Prison Industrial Complex just ​doesn’t make me feel any better about it. It only makes me feel worse.

The system of incarceration is an evil system. ​There is NOTHING good about it. It does not deter criminal behavior or fix it. It is a severely fucked-up, entirely ineffective, ever-growing, for-profit monster. And there is nothing good about two more people being locked-up in it.

​ Ma’Lik Richmond and Trent Mays need to be held to account for what they did, that’s for damn sure. And the girl who was sexually assaulted by them deserves justice. But justice does not and cannot exist in the system of incarceration, in the practice of putting people in cages. The Prison Industrial Complex continues to grow and grow and grow precisely because when very bad things happen we are all too happy to see the people responsible locked away and few of us ever consider the need to find better and more effective ways to deal with violence within communities.

This women is a mammy of the highest order willing to sympathize with black rapists because they have black skin.

Get a life.

Do you think that the rapists cared about the women they were raping? Do you think that the black boy who raped and knew full well about the “Prison industrial Complex” Didn’t know that they would GO TO JAIL?  No. This black boy knew it was a crime did it, taped it and thought he was untouchable. He now pays the consequences. Let’s not use the racism card. (and yes in this situation It’s simply a get out of jail free card)

I refuse to use racism as a way to put black men on a pedestal especially when it means letting others get away with vicious crimes.

And speaking of vicious crimes What about Our daughter wrote about the hypocrisy of black women at Essence who supported gang rapist Genarlow Wilson but didn’t support the Steubenville Rapists.  You should read the links below if you choose. Utterly informative and utterly sickening what she points out.

http://www.whataboutourdaughters.com/waod/2013/3/22/their-silence-speaks-for-itself-zerlina-maxwell-and-ebony-ma.html

http://www.whataboutourdaughters.com/waod/2013/3/18/zerlina-maxwell-and-ebony-magazines-hypocrisy-on-steubenvill.html

http://www.whataboutourdaughters.com/waod/2012/7/30/there-is-an-us-there-is-a-them-solidarity-is-not-an-excuse-t.html

Upwards and onwards..

V.

And speaking of pedestals I don’t know if you’ve heard the news  about Amanda Knox being tried again for murder. I’m not even going to go into the double jeopardy aspect of the case. Simply not my concern. What I want to talk about is the reactions to the news. The American Media and Commenters have come to the conclusion that the “poor girl”(I quote this from a comment) is being harassed meanwhile the foreign media thinks she’s a slutty, seducing murderess. But at this point I don’t care about the foreign media. I don’t even care about her verdict.  I want to talk about perceptions in the USA and pedestals. Let’s be honest, we all know why people automatically assume she was innocent. I won’t even lower myself to say it. But here’s a hint, it had nothing to do with any evidence,  solid or otherwise and more to do with her skin and gender. And  I won’t even attempt go into why the foreign media is painting her as seductress (which is most likely their distaste for Americans)

I will talk about the fact that pedestals have a lot to do with perception. A la  how Casey Anthony walked free as a bird.

I’m sure that in Pussy Riot fashion Americans black white man or woman, will be called upon to rally around this “poor girl” who is being harassed.

Because when white womanhood is threatened we’re all threatened amiright? And I’m sure that black women are going to come out in droves to support this woman like they usually do when it’s time to mammy.

I would like to ask why?

Black women never benefit from helping other people on pedestals. I mean sure, you can claim that by helping them you “help yourself” in the future.(Even though I never see this later) Hell isn’t that what feminism/ civil rights/ womanism/ black feminism/ take your pick, has been selling black women for hundreds of years? But really and honestly black women never benefit.

Black women helping the status quo actually ends up hurting them.

Instead upholding ideals about white women and femininity and womanhood actually ends up hurting the black women who will never live up to that standard simply because they’re black. Or supporting abusive black males like the Stuebenville rapist because they’re protecting black men’s pedestal will never help because they will never get the benefit of it because they’re women.

Honestly.  Because when we put rapists on a racism pedestal that means when they rape black women, black women can’t get help. We’ve seen this time and time again when black women want help in feminism or Civil rights and on the other side of the spectrum I could even say we’ve seen this happen to white men who now say they’re screwed because of biased divorce courts.

How ironic.

Not only is supporting and pedestals stupid but it also will come back and bite the supports in the butt because when those people hurt you well not a damn thing can be done. They’ve already been excused.

So what’s the whole point?

I don’t expect these black women to change, nor do I expect pedestals to be shifted or the sitters on to move themselves off. But I am warning black women with a modicum of sense to snap back to reality, stop kicking the football, and get a grip on their lives.  You’re marginalizing yourself at this point. Helping people on pedestals won’t help, and defending those who have proven that they hate your guts certainly won’t give you anything.  It’s best to accept that now.

Otherwise when you want justice, you might just be shit out of luck.

Until Next Time,

Stay Neutral

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31 thoughts on “The Continual Marginalization of… Ourselves

  1. 😳 Girl, you are on fire & DEAD ON RIGHT. I thought it was just me. Collectively black women behave like abused pets. . .constantly hoping that once, ONCE the abusive owner will show a modicum of love and compassion. Never been a feminist and I do not financially support racists, white or black. All I can do is divest & try to help as many sane bw do the same. Thank you for your post.

    • I thought it was just me. Collectively black women behave like abused pets. . .constantly hoping that once, ONCE the abusive owner will show a modicum of love and compassion.

      NO! its not just you! I notices the same thing and I honestly see the behavior and ask myself if i’m in the twilight zone. The way some black women act you would think they are LITERALLY slaves that can’t say no or get up and walk away.
      Glad you enjoyed the post
      OLS-

      • Loved this post!

        The mammy mentality is what it is. It’s sad to see and when you question this particular type of woman about why she feels the need to protect a man she will berate you for not doing the same. It’s actually quite sad. The more black women coddle black men the more disdain they have for us. I have never felt the need to protect a man because…..Wait for it…..he’s a man. If you say this to what I refer to as the “mammy’s who lunch” set….they will bite your head off.

        There is never a reason to self sacrifice for a grown man…especially one who shouldn’t have been committing a crime in the first place. They teach the next generation of women that you should accept anything off a black man and even when he is wrong you should protect him.

        I’m curious as to if you have any posts on the blog that specifically address the issue of sexual abuse in the black community and that whole veil of silence? (I’m fairly new to your blog and I would love to read your take on this issue). This is another instance of black women instead of getting an absuser off the street, are more worried about a black man not going to jail instead of protecting their children.

        I’m trying to understand how you can even be attracted to a man who needs you to stand up for him. Doesn’t that defeat the purpose of having a man if he is weak and needs you to protect him? Does anyone have any insight into this? Are some black women so damaged mentally that they don’t even know that this is an option?

        Is anyone else sick of the ” don’t air our dirty laundry for white people to see” attitude? Any time black men do something terrible to black women then we have people on about what white men do. Who cares if it opens up discussions of criminality in black men. Black men who are out raping and murdeing are criminals so why protect them? Just so white people can’t say racists things? What’s worse….to stand by and let black women and children be murdered by black men, or white men making racist comments on th Internet? Or is it ok to for black men to kill, rape and maim black women as long as white people don’t say anything…or as long as they point out that white men do it too?

        And we all know the rape issue in South Africa is a huge problem. What I don’t get is what is it going to solve by pointing out that white men in SA rape too…when we all know that most of the raping is being done by black South African men? Wouldn’t it be better to address the majority of men who are doing the raping? Black men are riding this wave of ” don’t point out my faults, issues , criminal activities, abusing those weaker than me because racism” until the wheels fall off. Yes racism exists…but issues need to be addressed without coddling.

  2. Thank you so much for this dead on article and overall blog. It amazes me how silly and content so many black women seem to be with how we are treated, viewed, and used for others’ benefit. I see black women always being quick to rally around some black men and non black women that would not spit on them if they were on fire. Things like this does affect the general well being of black women and I am glad more black women are waking up.

  3. “Forget the fact that there have been articles talking about how black women have been stopped and frisked the article address black men and the only visibility black women got were in relation or juxtaposition to black men and how it felt to have to watch black men be pawed and stereotyped.”

    And it’s more traumatizing for a woman to be manhandled by strange men on the street. Why be so fricking concerned about a grown ass man dealing with another grown man? It’s crazy. Can’t these dudes defend themselves?

    BTW, what law makes it possible for the police to stop anyone to violate their personal space? I never heard of this before today. I thought this was a TSA (touch.some.afro) at the airport thing. I guess some people have gotten bolder with their racist ish.

    “Yet again this is the classic way to “address” without addressing or torn a conversation that should go one way into turning it into something else. Instead of calling it like it T. I.  Is, this well-meaning white lady has used this as a way to give raping black men a pass. And don’t tell me that “she didn’t mean it”  “She didn’t intend it” BULLSHIT. I am damn tired of excusing people who think that they can avoid calling out dbr black men who have victimized black women (around the globe) and then settle on placations like “white men rape too”.”

    “NO! You’re kidding!” That’s my response to arguments like this. What difference does it make if WM commit rape in SA too? WM are not committing even half of the rapes there, not even one-quarter. Is the “white men rape too” argument suppose to convince us that the WM are somehow forcing the BM to commit rape? Is that the point that they are trying to make? I don’t get it. And if they cannot prove that WM are brainwashing BM to commit rape, they need to sit down and STFU.

    “Ahem, Black men who are the MAJORITY in South Africa. STOP RAPING WOMEN it’s violent and illegal. That is all.”

    They will NEVER say this, because then they (WW) would no longer be able to pretend that everything that BM do wrong is somehow the fault of their “oppressors” the WM, and possibly alienate their BM cheerleaders (who, oddly, use feminism as an excuse for their jealousy and hatred of BW). And since the overwhelming majority of rape victims in SA are BW, they would not be able to make such a stand against BM rapists about WW, who make up a relatively small percentage of rape victims in SA. But by blaming everything on WM and pitying the BM they get to make it all about the “poor WW who have to put up with WM”. White feminists (White women in general) LOVE center stage, and don’t care if they have to throw non-White women and girls under a multitude of buses to stay there.

    “Listen, I don’t really give a damn if black men leave the rape conversation feeling good about themselves or feeling like they’re not being attacked or “singled out”. Because they don’t mind don’t bat an eyelash when physically attacking black women. And the good ones have certainly washed their hands of the whole mess. When the majority of black women in South Africa say they’ve been raped, when Anene Booysen scenarios happen, I’m taking off the kid gloves ( if I ever had them on) and I’m going to say the truth.”

    Yes!!! Thank you!
    And anyone who is worried about the feelings of the predators /perpetrators and throw the victims of these crimes under the bus or ignore them altogether deserves to be punished along with the criminals themselves, as far as I’m concerned. Better yet, let’s lock these stupid women in an efficiency apartment with these predators that they love so much for one calendar year. Gee, I wonder what would happen? 😆

    “In the clutch article they mentioned that “Rick Ross”? has talked about date raping women in a song. And I wonder… why do websites geared towards “black women” waste their time telling black women about misogynistic, hateful black men? Why bother. Why are black women continually reporting commenting and getting angry/ boycotting people who have proven to hate black women? I have a question why are people even still listening to Rick Ross? Black women especially.”

    Clutch could be a great publication for BW if they were only willing to do three things: 1) STOP posting articles about how we need to “understand”/ coddle DBR BM, 2) STOP letting DBR BM post comments attacking BW yet delete the return fire comments from BW defending our collective honor, and 3) STOP pushing the Black love agenda. Love is a two-way street.

    I never even heard of Rick Ross before reading this post, and apparently I have missed nothing. Why do they feel the need to give this guy press? If they were warning them not to buy his music, that’s one thing, but they have no business promoting this woman hating man. They are supposed to be a magazine for women. Talking about DBR BM does not serve the best interests of BW. It seems to be part of their whole, we need to help DBR BM be different bull crap. Someone needs to tell these people, “You can only change yourself! And even that’s challenging.”

    “SMH I won’t even deny that the racists flock to YOUTUBE, but I will get a good gut laugh at the fact that this delusional black woman thinks that the videos of black men SHOWING THEIR FACE and bashing black women like the guy in the video I described above are really white men.”

    Those desperate for ANY BM Black women truly are in need of deprogramming. If you have to blame a third party for the actions and words of another, in order to justify your own desperate desire for such men, you need therapy. It makes absolutely no sense! I’ve seen some of the same women who beg BW-hating BM for love go to videos where non-BM are defending the beauty and character of BW and berate them for it. If a BM hates Black women for reminding him that he is Black, he just needs understanding and love, but if a White man (as it usually is on YT) is defending BW, he is a closet racist and has a fetish. Those women are nuts! Too many BW are their own worst enemy, and therefore the enemy of other BW as well. It’s sad, and it pisses me off.

    “These women are in the ranks laughing along, voting along, watching along with people who hate them.
    Only in America do black women go along with violence against themselves.”

    Only in America are Black parents raising their daughters to be stupid enough to support wannabe KKK members as long as they have dark skin. I know people (men and women) who teach their daughters that they should support Black MEN no matter what they do, and say that they teach this tragic mindset because they fear the extinction of the Black race if their daughters aren’t used as sperm receptacles by BM. It’s shameful and insane!

    I know that there are Blacks from other parts of the world, most notably the Carribean who HATE being “Black” or being associated with their African descent – no matter how obvious it may be, but at least they aren’t making a parade of it the way Black Americans do on an almost daily basis. The greatest favor the many ignorant Black celebrities – DL Hughly, Wendy Williams, Nicki Minaj, Kevin Hart, et al – could do for themselves and the rest of us who share their descent is just sit down and drink a big ole cup of STFU! I really mean that. Self-hating fools need not give their opinions on ANY subject EVER.

    “But onelesssoldier why does this matter? You ask. Well it matters because when fools like this let crap pass it always turns into something else. It’s, how you say? A Gateway.
    When they let hate speech go they let violence go. What am I talking about? Let’s talk about the black women and her take on Steubenville rapists.”

    I despise women like the one you quoted. In her mind just because the boy is Black he should be walking around free to attack someone else, just so there isn’t one more Black male putting himself in prison by committing a violent crime of his own FREE WILL. I wish people who talk this crap would fall dead the moment the thought occurs to them, so that it isn’t even spoken aloud. That may sound cruel of me, but I don’t care.

    “And speaking of vicious crimes What about Our daughter wrote about the hypocrisy of black women at Essence who supported gang rapist Genarlow Wilson but didn’t support the Steubenville Rapists. You should read the links below if you choose. Utterly informative and utterly sickening what she points out.”

    I read about this, and I was appalled that the same woman (whose name escapes me at the moment) was tweeting on behalf of a rapist when his victims were young Black girls, but anti-rapist because the Steubenville victim was a White girl. Interesting, but not surprising. If they threw the same venom the White girl’s way that they ALWAYS throw on Black female victims of rape (regardless of how young), they would get their heads handed to them for their trouble and that keeps such people in check. I don’t believe for one moment that they care about the victim in this case either, but they are AFRAID to turn against her as they would if she were of African descent.

    “Honestly. Because when we put rapists on a racism pedestal that means when they rape black women, black women can’t get help. We’ve seen this time and time again when black women want help in feminism or Civil rights and on the other side of the spectrum I could even say we’ve seen this happen to white men who now say they’re screwed because of biased divorce courts.”

    Exactly. BW do themselves and other BW a grave disservice by cheerleading for rapists and murders of BW, and then feign surprise when the consequences come home to roost in their own lives. I know someone who had to discover the hard way that being pro-Black male rapist is the opposite of being a protective mother to her daughters and even to herself. How stupid could anyone be? It’s shameful that anyone would even need to have it explained to them, yet it is necessary to explain it to certain dumb*ss BW.

    Fantastic post! I’m sure you won’t mind my reblogging. 🙂

    • And it’s more traumatizing for a woman to be manhandled by strange men on the street. Why be so fricking concerned about a grown ass man dealing with another grown man? It’s crazy. Can’t these dudes defend themselves?

      yah in one article the woman said she had to worry about inappropriate touching and they went through
      her purse with her birth control pills and underwear in it.
      black women now have to fight for women but men as well. SMH enough is enough men can handle themesleves
      I’m not their mother. I’m not fighting white men for black men.

      “NO! You’re kidding!” That’s my response to arguments like this. What difference does it make if WM commit rape in SA too? WM are not committing even half of the rapes there, not even one-quarter. Is the “white men rape too” argument suppose to convince us that the WM are somehow forcing the BM to commit rape? Is that the point that they are trying to make? I don’t get it. And if they cannot prove that WM are brainwashing BM to commit rape, they need to sit down and STFU.

      it simply away to say “white men rape too don’t pick on me” and given the history they can just
      say they are being singled out

      They will NEVER say this, because then they (WW) would no longer be able to pretend that everything that BM do wrong is somehow the fault of their “oppressors” the WM, and possibly alienate their BM cheerleaders (who, oddly, use feminism as an excuse for their jealousy and hatred of BW). And since the overwhelming majority of rape victims in SA are BW, they would not be able to make such a stand against BM rapists about WW, who make up a relatively small percentage of rape victims in SA. But by blaming everything on WM and pitying the BM they get to make it all about the “poor WW who have to put up with WM”. White feminists (White women in general) LOVE center stage, and don’t care if they have to throw non-White women and girls under a multitude of buses to stay there.

      I’ve also learned that ww feminists love bm cheerleaders because they need these men to prove that
      white men are the only opressors to call out their cheerleaders means that they have to admit that
      black men have been opressing black women for years and to admit that pulls the entire thread of their
      movement that relies on the idea that only white men are oppressors and everyone else (including themselves) victims.

      Clutch could be a great publication for BW if they were only willing to do three things: 1) STOP posting articles about how we need to “understand”/ coddle DBR BM, 2) STOP letting DBR BM post comments attacking BW yet delete the return fire comments from BW defending our collective honor, and 3) STOP pushing the Black love agenda. Love is a two-way street.

      yes but they wont because i’v realized they need the controversy for views. *shrugs* i guess i’ll find somewhere else to go.

      Only in America are Black parents raising their daughters to be stupid enough to support wannabe KKK members as long as they have dark skin. I know people (men and women) who teach their daughters that they should support Black MEN no matter what they do, and say that they teach this tragic mindset because they fear the extinction of the Black race if their daughters aren’t used as sperm receptacles by BM. It’s shameful and insane!

      good point black women have been programmed to support anyone black as long as its for ‘The cause”

      I read about this, and I was appalled that the same woman (whose name escapes me at the moment) was tweeting on behalf of a rapist when his victims were young Black girls, but anti-rapist because the Steubenville victim was a White girl. Interesting, but not surprising. If they threw the same venom the White girl’s way that they ALWAYS throw on Black female victims of rape (regardless of how young), they would get their heads handed to them for their trouble and that keeps such people in check. I don’t believe for one moment that they care about the victim in this case either, but they are AFRAID to turn against her as they would if she were of African descent.

      what’s really sad is that black women only care about other races. These black women cant even find
      any care for someone in the EXACT SAME GROUP as them! So sad.

      Exactly. BW do themselves and other BW a grave disservice by cheerleading for rapists and murders of BW, and then feign surprise when the consequences come home to roost in their own lives. I know someone who had to discover the hard way that being pro-Black male rapist is the opposite of being a protective mother to her daughters and even to herself. How stupid could anyone be? It’s shameful that anyone would even need to have it explained to them, yet it is necessary to explain it to certain dumb*ss BW.

      whats even more dangerous is that they have to learn this lesson at their daughters expense. That’s what angers me the most.

      Fantastic post! I’m sure you won’t mind my reblogging

      Glad you enjoyed it and reblog away!

  4. This is my new Bible. I have been seeing this same stupidity from black girls in the AMBW Movement. The stupid id devastating. I may make a response to your article to see if I can answer some of these questions.

  5. “Liking a type is one thing. Abusing, degrading, maligning, and discriminating, or putting their worth and value in their looks is another. That is racism/colorism. There is no other word for that. This man didn’t just say I find these women attractive. He said that dark black women are ugly/ hideous/ unlikable to anyone else.”

    You are absolutely right!!! Why would any BW hear a BM talk about them like this, and not feel compelled to shake with disgust, much less to be trying to reason with him to “like” her. Desperation is not attractive, and the type of man who would make a video like that is so underserving of any Black woman’s time and energy I could hardly stand it.

    Although the population of BM who are more likely to post this BW hate on YouTube are more likely to be American. This behavior does influence the way that BM in Canada relate too and view Black women as well. They need to be flagged and removed from YouTube because they are no better than the White racists who would be if they said even a fraction of the things BM have posted.

    I have decided the NO ONE will ride me to get what they want. NO BM, NO WM, NO WW, NO NO ONE!
    I recently decided to distance myself from a woman in my program (who is Aboriginal, but will be read as a WW)because I have been noticing that while hanging out with her that she is constantly gawking at BM as if they are some sort of science project, and waiting for my validation in order to enter the world of her BM fantasies. I almost think that she hopes that being placed with me, will allow BM to read her as “being down” or something. I am so against being the Black female mule that people oh so love to ride, that I have decided not to make my yearly visits to Jamaica with her as planned. Call it jealousy, envy, resentment or what ever you like. But there are more than enough color struck BM that exist on the planet that she will have no problems accessing on her own, and she will NOT be able to use me as her entry way into her curiousities about BM. How often do WW support me in any of my relationships, much less ones that would support me dating WM??? More BW need to start getting selfish, and look out for their own interests like everybody else.

    • Although the population of BM who are more likely to post this BW hate on YouTube are more likely to be American. This behavior does influence the way that BM in Canada relate too and view Black women as well. They need to be flagged and removed from YouTube because they are no better than the White racists who would be if they said even a fraction of the things BM have posted.

      i had no idea that bm in america were influencing bm in Canada. How so? Are there many similarities?

      More BW need to start getting selfish, and look out for their own interests like everybody else.

      This!

      • American blacks have more influence than we realize. That’s why we have to be careful about our image, but folks aren’t down with cleaning it up.

        BW especially need to use some sense and distance themselves from dysfunction. The ones who want to better their situation are going to have to move on. Try to bring on as many as you can, but sadly most will be lost.

      • Umm, I would say they absolutely do. If I hear another Black Canadian man (who is likely of Carribean descent) say that they don’t date Black women because they “attitudes”, they are “gold diggers”, or are too “maculine” I will just scream. I have heard a barrade of criticism directed toward Black Canadian women, over the recent years, and I do not think that this is a coincidence when considering the trail of awful YT videos out there, along with BET and rap music that many Canadians listen to hear. They may not be as vocal about it on a wide scale basis, but these views have become the norm here as well in my opinion, and the likely opinion of many other Canadian Black women.

        • wow. I new that black americans were visible to the rest of the world but I had no idea that much of the dysfunction was being picked up and spread. Thanks for the input.

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  7. First of all, hi. 😀

    I am new to this blog but I already love it and will definitely be awaiting new posts. You are giving all kinds of truth and so I’ve just been Amen-ing all over the place. Before I wander off to read more of your great posts, I just had to comment on this.

    I have written about my lack of give-a-damn about the middle class white woman-centric feminist movement, had the backlash, did not care. So I fully understand and agree with where you are coming from. Because any black woman with an inkling of self-preservation instincts already knows what time it is. Or should I say, what time it has ALWAYS BEEN.

    I’ve always noticed how white feminists are always eager to ally or acknowledge black men, but ignore or throw black women under the bus. The blunt truth is that a group privileged group seeking more power and privilege for themselves aren’t interested in those persons who don’t share privilege. Black men have MALE privilege, which is what white women want. But they don’t have WHITE privilege, which makes them safer to approach than white men. White women feminists in some ways feel equal to black men because they view their white privilege as balancing out the male privilege that black men enjoy.

    Black women have neither male nor white privilege, and so they remain a non-issue for these women and black men.

    And it’s sad that the black women chasing behind both groups do not realize it.

    A sensible woman opens her eyes to who is for and who is against her. She doesn’t make excuses or enable people to use and abuse her. I can only shrug at black women who don’t realize it at this point, because it’s their choice to waste their time and energy. I’ve got bigger fish to fry.

    • Hi!

      I’m glad you stopped by and hope you’ll return.

      I’ve always noticed how white feminists are always eager to ally or acknowledge black men, but ignore or throw black women under the bus. The blunt truth is that a group privileged group seeking more power and privilege for themselves aren’t interested in those persons who don’t share privilege. Black men have MALE privilege, which is what white women want. But they don’t have WHITE privilege, which makes them safer to approach than white men. White women feminists in some ways feel equal to black men because they view their white privilege as balancing out the male privilege that black men enjoy.

      I really love your whole comment but this stood out to me because this is what i have been saying for a long time.

      A sensible woman opens her eyes to who is for and who is against her. She doesn’t make excuses or enable people to use and abuse her. I can only shrug at black women who don’t realize it at this point, because it’s their choice to waste their time and energy. I’ve got bigger fish to fry.

      I also agree with this. Many black women simply want to live in a world of “unity” that just does not exist. And yet worse they want to bring me and women like me into it…. nope, no way. They’ll have to try something else.

  8. These stupid Black men hate Black women & girls no matter WHAT country/part of the world they are in. Africa, Caribbean, USA, Europe,etc it does NOT matter. Wherever you find Black people in the world you WILL find Black male hatred of Black women & girls, it is not a country/location thing, it is a race thing. And sadly, this sickening hatred by these Black male creatures of Black women & girls has caused a lot of damage to countless Black women & girls for decades and this damage manifests itself in the way too many Black women & girls now hate themselves. So sad that a race of women & girls have basically been destroyed by their own men. And anti-Black female racists DO NOT distinguish one Black woman or girl from the other based on mentality. Just sayin’.

    • I hope I didn’t paint an inaccurate picture with the comment I made earlier. I am a Canadian born Black women of Jamaican and St. Lucian descent, who agrees that colourism/racism does exist on the islands. However, the disdane, and racial misogeny that I see promoted and worn as some sort of badge by Black men in the West (America, and Canada) is very differnt than how I see Jamaican men (living in Jamaica, not ones who have immigrated to the the U.S. or Canada) relate too and appreciate their Black women. Does color influence things for Jamaican men? Umm, heck yah! But I have yet to see a Jamaican man (in Jamaica at least) pointing out how ugly, manly, undesireable etc. a Black woman is simply because she is Black. Or degrading Jamaican Black women in a collective sense. My Mom said that she was treated well by her Jamaican boyfriends when growing up there, and that it is the Canadian system (with it’s clearly defined racial stratification system) which could explain why they come to these countries and start treating Black women like shit. That’s just been my observations. Although I think technology is influencing certain attitudes towards Black women or people in general beginning in Jamaica.

      • With all due respect, I am going to have to say that I think you are giving Jamaican Black men in Jamaica too much credit. I believe the “difference” you see is mainly based on one thing and one thing only: The fact that Jamaica is majority Black. Simply put, the anti-Black female attitudes are going to play out a little differently than they will in majority White lands like the USA & Canada. It is just a question of sheer numbers, that is all. Also, please do not give the “racial stratification system” in majority White lands as the reason for the stupid hateful attitudes towards Black women & girls of these stupid Black males in
        said White lands like the USA & Canada. Too many people for FAR too long have made excuses for the disgusting, horrid, KKK/Neo-nazi-esque anti-Black female hatred that these Black males subject Black women & girls to. The reason for it is simply that these useless males hate Black women & girls, for no other reason that they are Black women & girls, 0oh and for the reason that these useless males are are also STUPID. I have learned that Black male love/appreciation for Black women & girls simply does not exist, and these stupid, useless males need to be called out on it, period.

        • Obviously you have your own intrepretation of “Black men” all over the world, and you probably have good reason to feel and think this way. i don’t particularly feel like I am giving anyone more credit than they deserve, because i am well aware of how awful Black men have been to Black women and girls. however, my intrepretation of the situation is my intrepretation based on MY life experiences and the way I see the situation. you may be right that maybe the fact that the majority of people in jamaica are Black so this may be why the “difference’ is I see is there, but isn’t that exactly my point whether influenced by geography or not? Anyhow, I am probably one of the least likely people I know to make excuses for Black men, but if that’s what you think is being done that is your intrepretation as well.

  9. Oh, I forgot to mention something. I was in a rush when I left the earlier post. I do agree that “racial stratification” is not the SOLE reason for BM hatred towards BW and BG’s, but it definitely plays a role in people’s beliefs and behaviors in my opinion. I am never going to believe that any one group of people are just inherently born with some sort of predisposition to hate any one particular group (including BM born in the West). I personally think that the social, political, cultural, media, economic etc. conditions greatly impact how people behave and come to think about things. Do BM need to take responsibility. Umm unquestionably, Yes! Are A LOT of BM stupid. YES! BUt generalizations are never accurate whether they are about BW or BM. And also, if the differences that I see are in your opinion dependent on the racial make up of a particular location, doesn’t that suggest that the racial makeup of a location can lead to the production of differing behaviors? Which is exactly the observations I have pointed out. And how exactly do you know that the Black men in majority Black locations have an equal amount of hatred towards Black women and girls as BM in places where this is not the case? And what measure would we be using? Doesn’t ones environment influence how they come to think, feel, and act?? I’m not suggesting that Jamaican Black men are perfect towards Jamaican Black women, of course they are not. But I definitely do not think it plays out the same way as BM born, raised or living in the West. Are you suggesting that the presence of more White people, make BM in the West more vocally hateful toward BW? The point of my initial posts was to comment on my intrepretations of the Black men from the perspective of both my Canadian and Jamaican experience, but some how this has become about me trying to “protect” BM, but since you don’t know me, I can’t expect you to know my intentions. *shruggs*

    • Tia, first let me say that if you feel attacked by me, I am truly sorry as that was not my intention. I just feel that it is way past due for the true reason for this disgusting anti-Black female behavior from Black males to be named for the pathetic, racist, misogynistic, senseless BASELESS hatred that it truly is.

      Now to answer your questions, all anyone has to do is take an honest look at the culture produced by Black males WORLDWIDE and the hatred/contempt they have for Black women & girls is obvious and in plain sight. It oozes from almost everything they do. The music they make, the books they write, who they consider “attractive” who they marry when they get money/status (example, the first BLACK presidents of African nations upon gaining independence picking WHITE WOMEN as first ladies. Sound familiar? It does to me, and last time I checked, Africa is not the USA, Canada, or Europe) the slang they use, etc. Also, all anyone has to do is listen to the comments that come out of the mouths of Black males whenever they discuss Black women & girls, especially in certain settings. The sick, twisted, garbage coming out of their mouths when discussing said poor women & girls does NOT sound like love to me.

      To answer your other question about a different racial makeup of a given area making these Black males more prone to vocal anti-Black female crap, it is really quite simple: In majority White lands there are more White/non-Black women than these stupid men, so they have a larger pool to choose from, and that makes them more bold about it. These countries also have strong integrationist/non-“racist” state idealogies that play on people’s images of Black males suffering in slavery, during the USA civil rights movement, and in colonialism and (Acting as if Black WOMEN & GIRLS never suffered under those awful systems) to make it seem as if the most non-“racist” thing a White/Whitish non-Black woman can do is date/marry a Black man, and this backwards, misguided way of thinking basically indulges these stupid males in their dreams of being rid of Black women as dating/marriage partner and having any White/Whitish non-Black women they want. Obviously, these same fool idealogies cannot exist in a country where 95%+ of the female population is BLACK.

      Finally as for a given group being born hating another group, well we are just going to have to agree to disagree, on that one and I will simply say that the disgusting, sick, twisted anti-Black female hatred from Black males speaks for itself and IMHO cannot possibly come from any source other than Black males themselves. Black women are beautiful, smart, loyal, hard-working race patriots. Why can’t these stupid men see that?

      • I agree with everything you have written. This bw hate from bm is a global epidemic. A lot of them simply hate us. I’ve read various blogs from bm in Britain and Brazil, and we are all saying the same thing!!! The blackwomenof brazil blog has a whole slew of articles from bm in Brazil talking about how they are at the bottom of the totem pole for black men.

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